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  • The documents do not say whether your data trains AI.
  • Your data is used for personalized ads, including by third-party ad companies.
  • Data is shared only with the providers who run the service.
  • The documents do not say who can read your content.

A forum that logs IPs for years, can close you anytime.

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Privacy policy · May 31, 2013 ↗Terms · July 12, 2018 ↗4 min read · fairly hard15 lines verified word for word

Collected

What is collected

Name, email, posts, IP addresses, cookies, and server logs.

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Privacy policy

“When registered and posting, we record the IP address that the post originated from. We also may retain server logs which include the IP address of every request to our server.”

Training

How it is used

They use it to personalize the forum, improve it, and send emails; visitor data may go to advertisers.

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Privacy policy

“However, non-personally identifiable visitor information may be provided to other parties for marketing, advertising, or other uses.”

Sharing

Who may see it

Trusted helpers who run the site can see personal data; they say they do not sell it.

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Privacy policy

“We do not sell, trade, or otherwise transfer to outside parties your personally identifiable information. This does not include trusted third parties who assist us in operating our site”

Kept

How long it is kept

Server logs up to 90 days; IPs tied to your posts up to 5 years.

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Privacy policy

“Retain the IP addresses associated with registered users and their posts no more than 5 years.”

Controls

Your controls

You can visit without registering; close an account by emailing them.

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Terms of service

“You may close your account at any time by e-mailing <contactemail>.”

Fine print

The fine print

$50 cap, you them, and they can end access anytime.

No exact line could be verified.

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What you can turn off

The controls and opt-outs their own documents describe, and where they say to find them.

  1. Close your account by email

    Email <contactemail> as stated in Your Account

  2. Visit without registering if you can

    Privacy policy: you may visit without registering

If a switch is not where they say, the deletion request above still applies.

Line by line

The lines that matter most, worst first.

1 · The fine print

If they harm you, they say they only owe you fifty dollars.

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Terms of service

“As far as the law allows, the to you for claims of any kind that are related to the forum or content on the forum will be limited to $50.”

For example, even if a bug wiped years of your posts, they claim they owe at most $50.

2 · The fine print

If someone sues them because of what you or someone on your account posted, you may have to pay their legal bills.

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Terms of service

“You agree to the company from legal claims by others related to your breach of these terms, or breach of these terms by others using your account on the forum.”

For example, if your account is used to post something illegal, you could be on the hook for their lawyer costs.

3 · The fine print

They can shut off your access whenever they want.

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Terms of service

“Either you or the company may end the agreement written out in these terms at any time.”

For example, they could close your account today and you would lose permission to use the forum.

4 · How long it is kept

They keep the IP tied to your account and posts for up to five years.

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Privacy policy

“Retain the IP addresses associated with registered users and their posts no more than 5 years.”

For example, a post from 2021 could still have your IP on file until 2026.

5 · How it is used

They may share visitor stats with others for ads.

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Privacy policy

“However, non-personally identifiable visitor information may be provided to other parties for marketing, advertising, or other uses.”

For example, traffic data from your visits could be used to help someone else advertise.

6 · How it is used

You still own your posts, but they can copy, show, and analyze them to run the forum.

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Terms of service

“That special license allows the company to copy, publish, and analyze content you submit to the forum.”

For example, they can keep showing your reply to other users and process it on their servers.

7 · How it is used

They say they do not sell your name, email, or similar personal details.

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Privacy policy

“We do not sell, trade, or otherwise transfer to outside parties your personally identifiable information.”

For example, they say they will not sell your email list to a marketer.

8 · The fine print

You must be 13 or older. They do not describe extra checks beyond that statement.

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Privacy policy

“Our site, products and services are all directed to people who are at least 13 years old or older.”

For example, a 12-year-old is told not to use the site, but they only ask you to follow that rule.

9 · The fine print

They may change the privacy rules by updating this page, without promising to email you.

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Privacy policy

“If we decide to change our privacy policy, we will post those changes on this page.”

For example, a new sharing rule could appear on the page and they would treat continued use as consent.

Words to know

Legal words from the lines above, in plain English.

retention
How long a company keeps your data before deleting it. For example, a policy might keep your messages for 30 days after you delete them, or for as long as it likes.
sell or share
Under California law, selling means passing your data to others for money or other value; sharing means passing it on for targeted ads. For example, letting an ad network use your browsing history in return for ad space counts as a sale.
personal data
Any information that is about you or can be linked to you, from your name to your phone's ID. For example, your email, your IP address and the list of apps on your phone are all personal data.
third parties
Any company or person other than you and the app, such as advertisers, partners or analytics firms. For example, an analytics company that receives a record of every screen you tap is a third party.
limitation of liability
A cap on what the company will ever pay you if something goes wrong, often only what you paid in the last year. For example, if a leak of your data costs you thousands, the most you may get back is a month's subscription fee.
indemnify
You promise to pay the company's legal costs and losses if your use of the service gets it sued. For example, if you post a song you do not own and the label sues the app, you owe the app's lawyer bills.
How we got here · grade D · score 39/100 · 13 of 15 policy answers backed by a verified quote · 3 not stated
  • What does the app collect beyond what it needs to work?

    They collect name, email, posts, IP addresses, cookies, and server logs, not just account details.

  • Does it record your voice, face or body, and what happens to that?

    The documents do not describe collecting voice, face, or body data.

  • Are your chats and uploads used to train AI models, and is that off by default?

    Not stated in the documents.

  • Can employees or contractors read your conversations, and when?

    Not stated in the documents.

  • Are you profiled or tracked for advertising?

    They may give non-personal visitor information to others for marketing and advertising, and use cookies with third-party helpers.

  • Do they sell or share your data, and can you opt out?

    They say they do not sell personal information, but share it with trusted parties who help run the site.

  • What rights do they take over what you type and what the AI makes?

    You own your posts. They get a license to copy, publish, and analyze them to run the forum, which ends after backups are gone.

  • How long do they keep your data after you delete it, and can you delete it in the app?

    They keep IPs for registered users and posts up to five years. Closing an account is by email, not an in-app delete with a short wipe.

  • Does it build a lasting memory or profile of you, and can you see, edit or turn it off?

    Not stated in the documents.

  • Do they commit to basic security, and have they leaked data?

    They say they use a variety of security measures, without naming audits or a bug-bounty program.

  • Is there a real age gate, and are teens protected?

    You must be at least 13. Under-13 users in the USA are told not to use the site. There is no described age check.

  • Will they tell you when the rules change, and is the policy specific?

    The privacy policy is dated 2013 and they only promise to post changes on the page. Terms are dated 2018 and they email for substantial changes.

  • Can they close your account without warning, and can you get your data out first?

    Either side may end the agreement at any time. They may also close an account if they believe you broke the rules. No export process is described.

  • If something goes wrong, who pays?

    The forum is as-is, liability is capped at $50, and you agree to cover their legal claims if you or your account break the rules.

  • Do subscriptions renew on their own, and can you get a refund?

    The documents do not describe paid subscriptions or refunds.

The privacy policy is 753 words at a fairly hard level (Flesch reading ease 53.8); the terms are 2,031 words at a fairly hard level.

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