ILGM Growers Forum
- The documents do not say whether your data trains AI.
- Your data is used for personalized ads, including by third-party ad companies.
- Data is shared only with the providers who run the service.
- The documents do not say who can read your content.
A public forum that keeps posts forever, licenses them CC, can ban you anytime.
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Collected
Name, email, IP, cookies, pages you view, search terms, and everything you post.
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Privacy policy
“Name, email address, and other information provided during registration. IP address of the device used to register or post.”
Training
They run the forum, send ILGM marketing, and analyze how you use the site.
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Privacy policy
“We may use your email address and other contact information to send you promotional emails, special offers, and newsletters from ILGM Store and other ILGM brands.”
Sharing
They say they do not sell data, but share with vendors and other ILGM sites.
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Privacy policy
“We do not sell or trade your personal information. However, we may share your information with trusted third parties that assist us in:”
Kept
Posts stay forever unless you delete them or your account; logs up to 30 days.
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Privacy policy
“Post content and metadata indefinitely, unless you delete your account or specific posts.”
Controls
Email support to access or delete data; unsubscribe from marketing in emails or settings.
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Privacy policy
“To exercise your rights, contact us at support@ilgm.com.”
Fine print
They can ban you anytime, posts are CC-licensed, paid plans auto-renew with no refunds.
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Terms of service
“ILGM may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately.”
Expand “Read the exact line” to see the source alongside the explanation.
What you can turn off
The controls and opt-outs their own documents describe, and where they say to find them.
Ask to access or delete your personal information
Email support@ilgm.com
Turn off marketing emails
Unsubscribe link in emails or account settings
Cancel a paid upgrade before the period ends
Notify ILGM before the end of the subscription period (terms say subscriptions can be canceled at any time)
Manage cookies in your browser
Browser settings (disabling cookies may break forum features)
If a switch is not where they say, the deletion request above still applies.
Line by line
The lines that matter most, worst first.
They can shut your account instantly for any reason or none, without warning.
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Terms of service
“ILGM may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately.”
For example, you could lose access overnight and have no chance to copy your posts first.
If someone sues them because of something you posted or how you used the site, you may have to pay their legal bills.
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Terms of service
“You agree to and ILGM, its contractors, and its licensors, and their respective directors, officers, employees and agents from and against any and all claims and expenses, including attorneys’ fees, arising out of your use of the Website”
For example, if a post you made caused a lawsuit, they could demand you cover their lawyers.
Your posts are licensed so others can copy and remix them for non-commercial use, with credit, even after you leave.
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Terms of service
“User contributions are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.”
For example, someone could republish your grow diary on another site as long as they credit you and do not sell it.
If you pay for an upgrade, you do not get money back, even if they cancel you.
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Terms of service
“These fees are not refundable.”
For example, if you buy a yearly upgrade and they ban you the next day, they keep the fee.
What you write stays on their servers forever unless you remove it or close the account.
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Privacy policy
“Post content and metadata indefinitely, unless you delete your account or specific posts.”
For example, a post from years ago can still be stored even if you never log in again.
Your forum info can be used by other ILGM shops and brands for marketing.
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Privacy policy
“Additionally, we may share your data across ILGM-owned websites and services to improve our products, personalize your experience, and coordinate marketing efforts.”
For example, signing up for the forum could lead to seed-store emails from another ILGM site.
If they change the rules, just keeping using the site counts as you agreeing, even if you missed the update.
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Terms of service
“Your continued use of or access to the Website following the posting of any changes to this Agreement constitutes acceptance of those changes.”
For example, they could add new fees in the terms and you would be bound if you kept posting.
They say they will not sell your personal info to outsiders.
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Privacy policy
“We do not sell or trade your personal information.”
For example, they claim they will not put your email on a sold marketing list.
You can stop promo emails using the unsubscribe link or account settings.
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Privacy policy
“You can opt out of marketing communications at any time by following the unsubscribe instructions included in our emails or by updating your preferences in your account settings.”
For example, you can click unsubscribe in an ILGM newsletter and they should stop those emails.
Words to know
Legal words from the lines above, in plain English.
- sell or share
- Under California law, selling means passing your data to others for money or other value; sharing means passing it on for targeted ads. For example, letting an ad network use your browsing history in return for ad space counts as a sale.
- personal data
- Any information that is about you or can be linked to you, from your name to your phone's ID. For example, your email, your IP address and the list of apps on your phone are all personal data.
- third parties
- Any company or person other than you and the app, such as advertisers, partners or analytics firms. For example, an analytics company that receives a record of every screen you tap is a third party.
- indemnify
- You promise to pay the company's legal costs and losses if your use of the service gets it sued. For example, if you post a song you do not own and the label sues the app, you owe the app's lawyer bills.
- service providers
- Outside companies that handle your data on the app's instructions, such as a cloud host or an email sender. For example, the company that stores the app's files in the cloud sees your data but only does what the app tells it.
- opt out
- Something is on by default and stays on until you find the setting and turn it off. For example, your chats may be used for training unless you go into settings and switch it off.
How we got here · grade D · score 38/100 · 14 of 15 policy answers backed by a verified quote · 3 not stated
What does the app collect beyond what it needs to work?
They collect account details, posts, IP addresses, server logs, cookies, pages viewed, and search terms.
Does it record your voice, face or body, and what happens to that?
The documents do not describe collecting voice, face, or body data.
Are your chats and uploads used to train AI models, and is that off by default?
Not stated in the documents.
Can employees or contractors read your conversations, and when?
Not stated in the documents.
Are you profiled or tracked for advertising?
They use cookies with third-party providers, analytics, and may show ads on your content unless you pay for ad-free.
Do they sell or share your data, and can you opt out?
They say they do not sell or trade personal information, but share with service providers and other ILGM sites. You can opt out of marketing emails.
What rights do they take over what you type and what the AI makes?
Posts are under a Creative Commons non-commercial share-alike license, and they may reuse your images for marketing.
How long do they keep your data after you delete it, and can you delete it in the app?
Posts are kept indefinitely unless you delete them or the account. To exercise deletion rights you must email support. Logs are kept up to 30 days.
Does it build a lasting memory or profile of you, and can you see, edit or turn it off?
Not stated in the documents.
Do they commit to basic security, and have they leaked data?
They say they use industry-standard measures but admit no internet transmission is fully secure. No audit or leak history is described.
Is there a real age gate, and are teens protected?
Privacy says the forum is for ages 21+ and they do not knowingly collect from younger people. The terms say the site is available only to people at least 13. There is no described age check.
Will they tell you when the rules change, and is the policy specific?
The privacy policy is dated January 21, 2025 and says significant changes will be emailed or announced. The terms say continued use after posting changes means you accept, with no advance notice required.
Can they close your account without warning, and can you get your data out first?
They may end your access at any time, with or without cause or notice. They have no obligation to refund amounts already paid.
If something goes wrong, who pays?
The site is “as is,” liability is capped at fees paid in the prior 12 months, and you must indemnify them for claims from your use.
Do subscriptions renew on their own, and can you get a refund?
Optional paid upgrades auto-renew unless you cancel before the period ends, and fees are not refundable.
The privacy policy is 680 words at a college graduate level (Flesch reading ease 39.3); the terms are 2,466 words at a college graduate level.
