lobste.rs
- The documents do not say whether your data trains AI.
- The documents do not say whether your data is used for ads.
- The documents do not say whether your data is sold or shared.
- The documents do not say who can read your content.
The files are a forum thread about Firefox, not lobste.rs privacy or terms, so we cannot tell what you agree to.
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Collected
The documents do not say what lobste.rs collects from you.
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Terms of service
“Firefox adds terms of use • privacy blog.mozilla.org via uds 1 year ago caches”
Training
The documents do not say how lobste.rs uses your posts or account.
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Terms of service
“When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, , worldwide license”
Sharing
The documents do not say who besides the site can see your data.
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Terms of service
“Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you, and we don’t buy data about you.”
Kept
The documents do not say how long lobste.rs keeps your data.
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Terms of service
“This means the data stays on your device and is not sent to Mozilla’s servers unless it says otherwise in this Notice.”
Controls
The documents do not describe any privacy controls for lobste.rs.
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Terms of service
“Some features in Firefox require you to opt in to them specifically.”
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What you can turn off
The controls and opt-outs their own documents describe, and where they say to find them.
Open lobste.rs privacy and terms pages on the live site
Not described in these documents; look on lobste.rs itself
If a switch is not where they say, the deletion request above still applies.
Line by line
The lines that matter most, worst first.
This line is about Firefox, not lobste.rs. It does not tell you what rights this site takes over your posts.
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Terms of service
“When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, , worldwide license to use that information”
For example, quoting this does not mean lobste.rs can reuse your comments the same way.
This is Mozilla’s change rule for Firefox. It is not a rule for lobste.rs.
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Terms of service
“We will take your continued use of Firefox as acceptance of such changes.”
For example, keeping a lobste.rs account does not accept Firefox’s new terms.
Commenters are talking about Mozilla’s FAQ, not this site’s sale of data.
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Terms of service
“Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“), and we don’t buy data about you.”
For example, this does not prove whether lobste.rs shares emails with anyone.
This list is from a Firefox privacy notice quoted in comments, not from lobste.rs.
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Terms of service
“To provide AI Chatbots • To provide Review Checker, including serving sponsored content”
For example, it does not mean lobste.rs runs chatbots on your comments.
This is a Firefox acceptable-use quote. It is not this site’s posting rules.
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Terms of service
“Your use of Firefox must follow Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy, and you agree that you will not use Firefox to infringe anyone’s rights”
For example, it does not ban you from posting on lobste.rs.
A commenter jokes about login, but the site never answers that in this text.
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Terms of service
“So when I login to lobste.rs (or any other important website) do I grant them the permission to use my credentials? ;-)”
For example, logging in here still does not explain what they store.
Again this is Firefox packaging talk, not lobste.rs account terms.
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Terms of service
“These Terms only apply to the Executable Code version of Firefox, not the Firefox source code.”
For example, it does not say whether you can export your lobste.rs posts.
This is curl’s license pasted in a comment, not a lobste.rs clause.
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Terms of service
“THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED”
For example, it does not cap what you can recover if this site breaks.
Words to know
Legal words from the lines above, in plain English.
- inputs and outputs
- Inputs are what you type, say or upload to an AI; outputs are what it gives back to you. For example, the question you ask a chatbot is an input and its answer is an output, and both may be stored.
- worldwide license
- You let the company use your content anywhere on earth, usually for free and for as long as it likes. For example, a video you post can be shown in ads in any country without asking you again.
- royalty-free
- The company can use your content without ever paying you for it. For example, your photo can appear in the app's ads and you get nothing.
- opt in
- Something is off until you actively say yes to it. For example, marketing emails that only start after you tick a box are opt in.
- as is
- You get the service in whatever state it is in, with no promise that it works or will keep working. For example, if the app deletes your photos by mistake, it is not promising to fix that or pay you back.
- warranty
- A promise that a product will work as described; most apps say they make no such promise at all. For example, if a paid feature never works on your phone, a no-warranty clause says that is your problem.
How we got here · grade F · score 21/100 · 15 of 15 policy answers backed by a verified quote · 15 not stated
What does the app collect beyond what it needs to work?
Not stated in the documents.
Does it record your voice, face or body, and what happens to that?
Not stated in the documents.
Are your chats and uploads used to train AI models, and is that off by default?
Not stated in the documents.
Can employees or contractors read your conversations, and when?
Not stated in the documents.
Are you profiled or tracked for advertising?
Not stated in the documents.
Do they sell or share your data, and can you opt out?
Not stated in the documents.
What rights do they take over what you type and what the AI makes?
Not stated in the documents.
How long do they keep your data after you delete it, and can you delete it in the app?
Not stated in the documents.
Does it build a lasting memory or profile of you, and can you see, edit or turn it off?
Not stated in the documents.
Do they commit to basic security, and have they leaked data?
Not stated in the documents.
Is there a real age gate, and are teens protected?
Not stated in the documents.
Will they tell you when the rules change, and is the policy specific?
Not stated in the documents.
Can they close your account without warning, and can you get your data out first?
Not stated in the documents.
If something goes wrong, who pays?
Not stated in the documents.
Do subscriptions renew on their own, and can you get a refund?
Not stated in the documents.
The terms are 13,151 words at a plain English level.
