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CTier CMedium risk · 41/100
  • The documents do not say whether your data trains AI.
  • Your data is used for personalized ads, including by third-party ad companies.
  • Data is shared only with the providers who run the service.
  • The documents do not say who can read your content.

They collect account, device, and usage data, can end access anytime.

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Privacy policy · July 28, 2023 ↗Terms ↗22 min read · college level20 lines verified word for word

Collected

What is collected

Account, payment, device, usage data, and sometimes info from brokers and analytics firms.

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Privacy policy

“Technical Data includes internet protocol address, your login data, device/browser type and version, time zone setting, location and time, device/software plug-in types and versions, operating system and platform”

Training

How it is used

They use it to run the service, do analytics, and market to you unless you opt out.

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Privacy policy

“We may use your Identity, Contact, Technical, Usage and Profile Data to form a view on what we think you may want or need, or what may be of interest to you.”

Sharing

Who may see it

They say they do not sell data; providers like AWS, Sentry, and Posthog can see it.

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Privacy policy

“We do not sell your Personal Information.”

Kept

How long it is kept

They keep it as long as they think they need it; you delete by asking them.

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Privacy policy

“We will only retain your personal data for as long as necessary to fulfill the purposes we collected it for, including for the purposes of satisfying any legal, accounting, or reporting requirements.”

Controls

Your controls

You can email support to access, correct, or erase data and opt out of marketing.

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Privacy policy

“You may make these requests by emailing us at: support@logseq.com.”

Fine print

The fine print

They can change terms by posting them, end access anytime, auto-renew paid plans.

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Terms of service

“We also reserve the right to make any changes to the Site and Services in any manner and to deny or terminate your access to the Site and Services, even if you have an Account, in our sole discretion.”

Expand “Read the exact line” to see the source alongside the explanation.

What you can turn off

The controls and opt-outs their own documents describe, and where they say to find them.

  1. Opt out of marketing emails

    Log into the website and uncheck marketing boxes, or use opt-out links in emails

  2. of your personal data

    Email support@logseq.com

  3. Cancel a subscription

    Account settings

If a switch is not where they say, the deletion request above still applies.

Line by line

The lines that matter most, worst first.

1 · The fine print

If someone sues them because of how you used the service or what you posted, you may have to pay their legal bills.

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Terms of service

“You agree to and us, our affiliates and our and their officers, directors, partners, agents, and employees from and against any loss, , claim, or demand, including reasonable attorneys’ fees”

For example, if you posted someone else’s writing and they sued Logseq, you could be on the hook for costs.

2 · The fine print

Subscriptions keep charging until you cancel, and money already paid is not refunded.

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Terms of service

“If you cancel a Subscription Service, you will continue to have access to that Subscription Service through the end of your then current billing period, but you will not be entitled to a refund or credit for any Subscription Fee already due or paid.”

For example, if you cancel mid-month you still pay for the rest of that month with no refund.

3 · How it is used

Anything you post publicly they can keep using forever, even after you leave, and they can it.

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Terms of service

“By posting User Content in a publicly-accessible portion of the Services, you give us and our affiliates a , nonexclusive, , , and transferable worldwide license”

For example, a public graph or post could be reused or shared by them without paying you.

4 · The fine print

They can shut off your account whenever they want, without promising notice.

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Terms of service

“deny or terminate your access to the Site and Services, even if you have an Account, in our sole discretion.”

For example, they could lock you out of a paid account without a warning email.

5 · What is collected

They may get information about you from companies that buy and sell personal data, not only from you.

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Privacy policy

“Identity and Contact Data from data brokers or aggregators.”

For example, a broker could send them extra contact details they did not ask you for.

6 · How it is used

Ad and analytics networks can send them technical data about you.

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Privacy policy

“Technical Data from analytics providers, advertising networks, and search information providers.”

For example, an advertising network might tell them you visited related sites.

7 · The fine print

Keeping using the app after they post new terms counts as agreeing, even without a special alert.

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Terms of service

“If you use the Site or the Services after a modification of these Terms, you agree to be bound by the Terms as modified.”

For example.

8 · How it is used

They state they do not sell your personal information.

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Privacy policy

“We do not sell your Personal Information.”

For example, they say they would not sell your email list to another company.

9 · How it is used

They say other companies cannot use your data for those companies’ own marketing.

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Privacy policy

“We will not share your personal data with any third party for marketing purposes.”

For example, a payment processor should not email you ads of its own using your Logseq email.

Words to know

Legal words from the lines above, in plain English.

sell or share
Under California law, selling means passing your data to others for money or other value; sharing means passing it on for targeted ads. For example, letting an ad network use your browsing history in return for ad space counts as a sale.
personal data
Any information that is about you or can be linked to you, from your name to your phone's ID. For example, your email, your IP address and the list of apps on your phone are all personal data.
retention
How long a company keeps your data before deleting it. For example, a policy might keep your messages for 30 days after you delete them, or for as long as it likes.
indemnify
You promise to pay the company's legal costs and losses if your use of the service gets it sued. For example, if you post a song you do not own and the label sues the app, you owe the app's lawyer bills.
affiliates
Other companies owned by or connected to the same parent company. For example, if you use one app, its sister apps under the same owner may also get your data.
limitation of liability
A cap on what the company will ever pay you if something goes wrong, often only what you paid in the last year. For example, if a leak of your data costs you thousands, the most you may get back is a month's subscription fee.
perpetual
Lasting forever, with no end date. For example, a perpetual licence means the company can keep using your video years after you leave.
irrevocable
Cannot be taken back or cancelled once given, even if you change your mind or delete your account. For example, an irrevocable licence to your photos means you cannot withdraw it later.
royalty-free
The company can use your content without ever paying you for it. For example, your photo can appear in the app's ads and you get nothing.
sublicensable
The company can pass its rights over your content on to other companies without asking you. For example, an app can let an advertiser or a partner reuse your video under the licence you gave.
worldwide license
You let the company use your content anywhere on earth, usually for free and for as long as it likes. For example, a video you post can be shown in ads in any country without asking you again.
data broker
A company that buys, collects and resells information about people, usually without ever meeting them. For example, your phone number and shopping habits can be sold as part of a list to a company you never heard of.
How we got here · grade C · score 41/100 · 15 of 15 policy answers backed by a verified quote · 3 not stated
  • What does the app collect beyond what it needs to work?

    They collect account, payment, device, IP, usage, and profile data, and may get identity and contact data from brokers.

  • Does it record your voice, face or body, and what happens to that?

    They say they do not collect biometric data or other special-category personal data.

  • Are your chats and uploads used to train AI models, and is that off by default?

    Not stated in the documents.

  • Can employees or contractors read your conversations, and when?

    Not stated in the documents.

  • Are you profiled or tracked for advertising?

    They receive technical data from advertising networks and analytics providers and use cookies and similar tools.

  • Do they sell or share your data, and can you opt out?

    They say they do not sell personal information and share it with service providers such as AWS, Sentry, and Posthog, not for third-party marketing.

  • What rights do they take over what you type and what the AI makes?

    Public posts get a perpetual, irrevocable, sublicensable worldwide license; other content is not clearly licensed the same way.

  • How long do they keep your data after you delete it, and can you delete it in the app?

    They keep data as long as needed for their purposes; you request deletion by contacting them.

  • Does it build a lasting memory or profile of you, and can you see, edit or turn it off?

    Not stated in the documents.

  • Do they commit to basic security, and have they leaked data?

    They describe general security measures, access limits, and breach notification, but not an independent audit.

  • Is there a real age gate, and are teens protected?

    The site is not for children; they say they do not knowingly collect under 18, and users must be the age of majority or have a parent’s permission.

  • Will they tell you when the rules change, and is the policy specific?

    The privacy policy is dated, but terms say changes apply when posted and continued use means you accept.

  • Can they close your account without warning, and can you get your data out first?

    They may deny or terminate access in their sole discretion, even if you have an account.

  • If something goes wrong, who pays?

    The service is as-is, liability is capped at six months of fees you paid, and you must indemnify them for claims from your use or content.

  • Do subscriptions renew on their own, and can you get a refund?

    Subscriptions charge monthly until cancelled in account settings; cancelled periods are not refunded. Price changes get 30 days’ notice.

The privacy policy is 4,992 words at a college level (Flesch reading ease 45.6); the terms are 3,896 words at a college level.

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